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[Today's Poland is coming at you from the libary, where he's seated with a large number of fashion and fashion history books piled around him. After a year here studying future-fashion in his offtime, he seems to have made it at least to the 1960s, as he's dressed in a pair of jeans like America showed him and an embroidered peasant blouse, a bright red poppy tucked behind one ear and holding his bangs back on that side, his feet bare.]

I'm so down with us having a party where I'm not talking to colors the whole time... But guys, I totally can't decide what I'm gonna wear! You should like, come down and help me pick~

Date: 2011-04-04 01:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reckless-eagle.livejournal.com
Um, news flash? That's what the men awful enough to take advantage of loose women being loose do. They like, use you.

It's not stupid! If you do it outside of marriage, it's like, perverting something holy... anyway, your reason's dumb, because then they can learn better! You... you like, help each other learn. Duh.

[And really, the practicing? Is awesome. But he's not about to share those kinds of thoughts on his sex life with her, no indeed!]

Date: 2011-04-04 01:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itsahotone.livejournal.com
[Unfair, Poland. She would just love to gossip about that.]

Ever think that I might get some enjoyment out of it, too? It's more like mutual using. [Except for the few times she gives in and sleeps with a guy just because, even if she's not that into it. But she's not about to share those kinds of thoughts with him.]

Date: 2011-04-04 01:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reckless-eagle.livejournal.com
There's totally nothing wrong with enjoying it, as long as it's about the love and commitment and not so much about the using people.

Date: 2011-04-04 01:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itsahotone.livejournal.com
Sometimes it's just about getting off.

[Pauuuuuse.]

Are you this judgey about guys, too? Like, you know Tim, right? And any other guys around here that actually ever put out... You lecture them like an after-school special too?

Date: 2011-04-04 01:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reckless-eagle.livejournal.com
Um, yes? I like, don't talk to them about it as much because they don't talk to me about it as much, and like, none of them make fun of me for having waited until I was married. But I did talk about it with Tim, and I totally told him I wasn't cool with how he was acting 'cause I think it's bad for everyone involved!

Date: 2011-04-04 01:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itsahotone.livejournal.com
Hmm. Okay, cool, at least you're not grossly sexist. Also? Get it right. I don't make fun of you for waiting. I make fun of you for thinking there's only one way to have sex.

It's a subtle difference, I know.

[Another paaaause. La la la.] You...told Tim you weren't--what? How was he acting?

Date: 2011-04-04 01:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reckless-eagle.livejournal.com
You make fun of me for like, everything.

Like, sleeping with some girl and acting like it's not a big thing! I guess maybe if I'm willing to pretend you're sometimes right and it might not be a totally awful idea for the girl, it might only be bad for him, but seriously, I think he needs to slow down with whoever it is, and I told him so!

Date: 2011-04-04 02:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itsahotone.livejournal.com
[She'd comment on the making fun, but...come on.]

You...told him that. Uh-huh... [She is doing a pretty good job at keeping a straight face right now. Be impressed.] Let me guess, he didn't agree?

Date: 2011-04-04 02:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reckless-eagle.livejournal.com
Not so much. I'm like, really worried about him...

Date: 2011-04-04 02:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itsahotone.livejournal.com
You're... Okay, you really need to worry about anything other than your friend getting laid.

[A lot. And awesomely.]

Date: 2011-04-04 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reckless-eagle.livejournal.com
I told you, it's like, bad for the soul to treat something so important so lightly. Plus, he's actually a nice guy. If you're right and the girl's really just that casual about it, I totally think it'll probably hurt him sooner or later...

[And it will be up to Poland to supply hard liquor and I-told-you-so's a shoulder to cry on :x]

Date: 2011-04-04 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itsahotone.livejournal.com
Nice guys can like casual sex, too! [Oh hey, did that sound a little defensive?] It doesn't make you freakin' evil or something!

Date: 2011-04-04 02:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reckless-eagle.livejournal.com
[For a second, Poland's voice shows a hint of his age.]

Nice people can like, do all kinds of things that are bad for themselves and the people around them, babe. Nice people can be misled, and they can make mistakes. And I totally believe he's making one, just like you.

[Everyone sins. Everyone. That doesn't mean you should just let it go, or not try to help your friends lead better lives!]

Date: 2011-04-04 02:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itsahotone.livejournal.com
Yeah, well...it's just your opinion that it's a bad thing. [This is the first she's sounded like she's actually affected by what he says.]

Date: 2011-04-04 03:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reckless-eagle.livejournal.com
Not just mine.

Look, I'm like, not a priest or whatever, and I'd probably be a pretty lame one. But I've totally had a long time to think about this, you know? And like... you know, now that I've been with someone...

I think the thing is, like, no matter what you say about it, even though it feels good and is fun, you kinda give up something of yourself, and if it's to someone you love and can trust and want to stay with, there's nothing wrong with that. If it's not... I think that hurts people. I've totally seen it hurt people, and I think that's why we think it's bad.
Edited Date: 2011-04-04 03:00 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-04-04 03:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itsahotone.livejournal.com
...

It doesn't hurt me. I do what I want, okay? Not everyone thinks of sex like that! Sometimes you aren't giving up anything but like, obviously your body.

God, I just--why do you care so much about what other people do? And what makes you so freakin' positive that it'll hurt hi--people?

Date: 2011-04-04 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reckless-eagle.livejournal.com
Yeah, like, keep telling yourself that.

I care because like, wouldn't you care if you knew people were doing stuff that was bad for them and they didn't really know it? And I think it's gonna hurt Tim because it's natural to want to really be close to someone who makes you feel good that way, and if she doesn't go for that, what then? I don't think he's the kind of person who can just honestly not care. And if he hurts her, I bet he'll feel wicked bad about that, too.

Date: 2011-04-04 03:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itsahotone.livejournal.com
[jkdhjksf She hates you SO MUCH RIGHT NOW, Poland.

Also, she will now be super mature and wise beyond her almost seventeen years.]


Oh my god shut up! You have no idea what you're talking about and you never will because you're from the dawn of the dinosaurs and things have changed since then! Like--like how you're so grossed out by the idea of a freakin' blowjob! See? Changes! So you just need to stop...preaching!

[...Yep. Mature and wise, that's her. You can really tell from how she sounds almost shaky.]

Date: 2011-04-04 03:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reckless-eagle.livejournal.com
[In response, Poland actually will act mature and wise beyond... well, his physical age, at least. For once.]

Not everything changes. The superficial things, sure, totally. But human nature? Not so much. And I totally don't buy that you come from a time when people just all of a sudden magically don't want to feel needed and loved.

Date: 2011-04-04 03:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itsahotone.livejournal.com
Didn't I just say to stop with the preaching? It doesn't matter what you think. All that matters is what the people actually involved think.

[...so there. :|]

Date: 2011-04-04 03:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reckless-eagle.livejournal.com
You know you're preaching at me as much as I'm preaching at you, right? Also, you're not my boss and I can totally say what I want to you.

[And you're wrong :|]

Date: 2011-04-04 03:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itsahotone.livejournal.com
I am not preaching! I'm teaching you what life is like now, in the year two thousand whatever the hell it is here! There's totally a difference.

Date: 2011-04-04 03:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reckless-eagle.livejournal.com
Um, I totally don't think it's really any year here. And the other people I know from your time don't act anything like you. And you're always telling me how the way I do things is weird and I'm probably doing it wrong.

Date: 2011-04-04 03:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itsahotone.livejournal.com
That's because they're all losers.

And seriously, that's because the way you do things is weird. I'm just keeping it real and helping you out.

Date: 2011-04-04 04:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reckless-eagle.livejournal.com
Um, no.

And that's basically what I'm doing, except my advice doesn't suck.

[And neither does he. OHHHHH!]

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